CNN’s Abby Phillip stops the show to “fact-check” her own panelist after she claims 1,500,000 Chinese “CCP babies” have been born in the U.S.
Lydia Moynihan refuses to back down after Abby Phillip trashes Trump’s birthright citizenship executive order as “bad politics.”
Phillip is sure she has it right and refuses to move on. Here’s how the exchange unfolded:
PHILLIP: “They wanted to change birthright citizenship via executive order. That seems like bad politics, bad optics. Maybe both.”
MOYNIHAN: “I mean, we already know that foreign adversaries are exploiting this. There’s been 1.5… Chinese CCP babies who’ve been born in the U.S. 1.5 million people who’ve come…”
PHILLIP: “I’ve never seen the number be that high.”
MOYNIHAN: “The New York Post has reported on it. So that’s an issue that we know our foreign adversaries…”
PHILLIP: “Are you talking about Chinese nationals who come here? You realize that not all of them are here to give birth…”
MOYNIHAN: “Okay, well, we can argue about the numbers. That’s the number that’s been reported.”
PHILLIP: “I’m arguing. I’m arguing. Hold on, Lydia. I’m arguing about the numbers because the numbers matter. This is a country of hundreds of millions of people. And if you are talking about a number of people that is in the tens of thousands, where there are already laws that address this issue, that should be part of the conversation.”
MOYNIHAN: “There’s still birth tourism schemes that are advertised all over the world.”
PHILLIP: “I understand that. Back in the day, early in my career, 2015, there was a huge birth tourism crackdown. I covered that. This has been going on for a long time. But what is the scale? What is the true scale? Lydia, I’m telling you, if we are being truthful, the true scale is not 1.9 million…”
MOYNIHAN: “1.5.”
[Crosstalk]
MOYNIHAN: “…million Chinese people coming. We already know that that’s something that our foreign adversaries are using to exploit us. We already know that people who come and have a child… are using it on social welfare services. So why would we want more of that?”
PHILLIP: “How many people are we talking about, Lydia?”
MOYNIHAN: “I already mentioned the 1.5.”
PHILLIP: “You’re saying that all of the 1.5 million people… are coming for the sole purpose of utilizing our social services?”
MOYNIHAN: “Do you really want people whose parents are CCP citizens, who grow up in China, to come here and vote? Cause that is what birthright tourism and citizenship allow.”
The number Abby Phillip said she’d never seen comes from Peter Schweizer’s book “The Invisible Coup,” which estimates 750,000 to 1.5 million Chinese babies gained U.S. citizenship through the birthright loophole over 13 years. The numbers are not Schweizer’s but based on the Chinese government’s own internal estimates.
Once again, Phillip has no idea what she’s talking about.