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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Emily Nagoski

YAS! Thank you for writing this! As a trauma therapist and someone who works with those who have sexually harmed this is imperative! I have had young men who do not believe they are attractive enough to have a partner and who betray trauma tell me it’s society and women’s fault and trying to get them to take these steps can be challenging even for a professional helper. Your words will be of great benefit though!

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Dec 4, 2022Liked by Emily Nagoski

This concept of human beings and human givers is wonderfully succinct. Thanks for sharing! Can’t wait to dive in to Down Girl (when it comes off hold on my library app!)

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Dec 3, 2022Liked by Emily Nagoski

This is so good! Thank you for addressing this and speaking for women. The fact that the perverse idea of women owing men sex is taking up space in mainstream media is incredibly disturbing.

Loved episode 4 of your podcast, too! Great stuff!🙌🏼

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This is so beautifully said. Connection is the key. I think there is a lot that happens to these men that goes back into childhood with damaged attachments. It is not enough to give a child "stuff," or to enroll them in the "right" school, or schedule every moment of their day. They need loving, emotional connection with caregivers. Emotional neglect is so damaging to a child, and the child does not know what they did not get. This in not an excuse to be an obnoxious grown-up (I do not say "adult" because they are not acting in a truly adult manner). Instead, these men need to look inside themselves, and instead of blaming women, they need to go see a great trauma therapist and learn the skills they were never taught and can still learn.

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Telling Men to grow up is correct. However, making it parallel to oppression of women under the guise women are suppose to do something for Men is wrong. Men have no desire to oppress women, but only to love and connect with women. I can only deduct your speaking of Men who wanted connections with multiple women, not at the same time, but each time, fell short until he snapped. Most, as you call it, incels, will never kill a women he would rather kill himself. Studies show more Men commit suicide. Furthermore, have you heard of the passport movement a lot of Men are heading overseas to achieve women of beauty standards keeping and making commits to marriage. This is a solution, a display of Men growing-up, traveling, learning a new language, and becoming husbands. Lastly, if the passport movement angers you in anyway I have to say it proves you did not want Men to grow up, but only wanted them to hurt. If it fills you with warmth, I believe you did want to help everyone in the current state of the US reach a life worthy of God’s joy for us all.

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