From 1890 to 1950, black women had a higher marriage rate than white women. And in 1950, just 9% of black children lived without their father. By 1960, the black marriage rate had declined but remained close to the white marriage rate. In other words, despite open racism and widespread poverty, strong black families used to be the norm.
But by the mid-1980s, black fatherlessness skyrocketed. Today, only 44% of black children have a father in the home. In unison, the rate of black out-of-wedlock births went from 24.5% in 1964 to 70.7% by 1994, roughly where it stands today.
The finding "that black American women outearn white women after controlling for socio-economic background" is not surprising when you consider how much more aggressive black women are and which is proven by their higher than white male homicide rate per capita. Intimidating and outcompeting white female colleagues may be a piece of cake for them, especially with the aid of DEI policies.
Blank-slatist conservatives are wrong to reject genetics, but more correct than you're giving them credit for. Up until 1960, black marriage and divorce rates tracked white rates quite closely, and were slightly higher until 1950 (though this is confounded by the fact the blacks were mostly in the rural south, where marriage rates were higher). See figure 5 here (https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/jep.21.2.27).
As you've pointed out in the article, blacks have had consistently higher rates of promiscuity, infidelity and bastardry than whites for as long as we have records in the United States, but the absolute levels of these things changed enormously and rapidly for the worst post-Great Society, 2nd wave feminism, and Civil Rights, which collectively made marriage much less valuable. The complete disintegration of the black family after 1960 is also not unique, just a faster version of what's happening with whites (see Coming Apart or the linked report).
The synthesis is that both blacks and whites respond to incentives wrt sex and marriage, but whites are more "genetically monogamous," and as such will have relatively stronger families given the same legal, cultural, and economic incentives. But it isn't just relative strength that matters here.
maybe I missed something, but this review of the lit doesn't encourage me much about the equality of races. none at all in fact. no matter what, slavery or freedom, a lot of dysfunction.
" By 1960, the black marriage rate had declined but remained close to the white marriage rate. In other words, despite open racism and widespread poverty, strong black families used to be the norm."
That was a time when you could go to Greenwich Village or the North Beach of San Francisco if you wanted to live without concern for traditional Christian morality-and that was about it. Leave the borders of Munchkinland and you were likely to be knocked in the head by a teenage (white) goon.
And there was a time (before independence and beyond to some extent), when Jamaica had one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Ian Fleming and Noel Coward were very comfortable with having their primary residences there. Today, Jamaica has the highest homicide rate of any country in the world. Wikipedia ("Crime in Jamaica"): " When Jamaica gained independence in 1962, the murder rate was 3.9 per 100,000 inhabitants, one of the lowest in the world. In 2022, Jamaica had 1,508 murders, for a murder rate of 53.34 per 100,000 people, the highest murder rate in the world. Jamaica recorded 1,680 murders in 2009.
I think we all know the social and legal environments were radically different in 1950 and 1960 from what they are today. There was a lot more social discipline for everyone, That was why, famously, the hippies didn't like it so much. Generally, more social discipline for blacks than whites because of Jim Crow in the South and informal partial Jim Crow in most of the rest of the country and probably other factors I don't want to get into because I'm not writing an essay.
Slavery is a very disruptive and evil thing. It was a huge mistake bringing blacks to a continent controlled by whites. The colonies and subsequent United States have suffered from it since then. The fact is black and white culture is not compatible.
Before the 1965 Civil Rights Act, black families were much more cohesive.
Are there any conservatives that are ready to cut off welfare to single mothers? To the point where their children will go without food/shelter/medical care?
No, there is some desire to shame deadbeat dads but there is little juice left to squeeze there.
Single moms would rather be married to the state than men that would want them. They will vote for that. That’s the equilibrium. Unless the vote is taken away from single moms and conservatives grow a spine nothing will change.
This is an interesting article. I do think that welfare has a lot to do with the destruction of the black family and rise of single mother homes. But, there's another factor too, declining religiosity specifically Christianity that built the western world.
Anti-adultery/promiscuity, focus on the family and greater society, anti-infant abortion: these ideals and more came from Christianity. The lack of them have corroded American society. Whites and hispanics are galloping after similar rates of dysfunction that the black family has.
I'm not sure how to respond to this article. I haven't thought much about the causes of the various dysfunctions in the American black community, but I've never been sympathetic to slavery as the foundational root cause of the dysfunctions simply because slavery seems to be the "cause" whatever the issue, drowning out any voices arguing for "individual agency." This article actually makes me more sympathetic to the slavery reason, at least regarding the dysfunctions of the black family and family formation.
But once family formation fails from one generation to the next, it becomes the norm in a community. How you break this cycle is the question, one that is greatly exacerbated when BLM and other activist groups seek to destroy the nuclear family as an instrument of the patriarchy.
And what about white male pathologies like suicide, pedophilia and famicilide, since you care soo much about moral vices? How about eradicating the endemic pathologies about the white male community instead of trying to save others to feel better about yourselves and your pathetic condition. Asian and hispanic have been outcompeting whites in the west coast, you cant even save your demographic from replacement and you are trying to save others lol. How genuinely ironic
This is interesting. My GG grandfather was 1/2 black and come to Lower Canada in 1837 from a slave plantation in Barbados. I know a lot about the white side of our planter family, but very little about the slave side. I dont know what to say, except that this grandfather did marry in Canada and had a large family, from which I am descended.
I just learnt so much about why Caucasians restrict female sexuality and why my foreign students purvey the promiscuity of their male counterparts so vivaciously. Makes total sense.
From 1890 to 1950, black women had a higher marriage rate than white women. And in 1950, just 9% of black children lived without their father. By 1960, the black marriage rate had declined but remained close to the white marriage rate. In other words, despite open racism and widespread poverty, strong black families used to be the norm.
But by the mid-1980s, black fatherlessness skyrocketed. Today, only 44% of black children have a father in the home. In unison, the rate of black out-of-wedlock births went from 24.5% in 1964 to 70.7% by 1994, roughly where it stands today.
https://ifstudies.org/blog/family-breakdown-and-americas-welfare-system
The finding "that black American women outearn white women after controlling for socio-economic background" is not surprising when you consider how much more aggressive black women are and which is proven by their higher than white male homicide rate per capita. Intimidating and outcompeting white female colleagues may be a piece of cake for them, especially with the aid of DEI policies.
Blank-slatist conservatives are wrong to reject genetics, but more correct than you're giving them credit for. Up until 1960, black marriage and divorce rates tracked white rates quite closely, and were slightly higher until 1950 (though this is confounded by the fact the blacks were mostly in the rural south, where marriage rates were higher). See figure 5 here (https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/jep.21.2.27).
As you've pointed out in the article, blacks have had consistently higher rates of promiscuity, infidelity and bastardry than whites for as long as we have records in the United States, but the absolute levels of these things changed enormously and rapidly for the worst post-Great Society, 2nd wave feminism, and Civil Rights, which collectively made marriage much less valuable. The complete disintegration of the black family after 1960 is also not unique, just a faster version of what's happening with whites (see Coming Apart or the linked report).
The synthesis is that both blacks and whites respond to incentives wrt sex and marriage, but whites are more "genetically monogamous," and as such will have relatively stronger families given the same legal, cultural, and economic incentives. But it isn't just relative strength that matters here.
maybe I missed something, but this review of the lit doesn't encourage me much about the equality of races. none at all in fact. no matter what, slavery or freedom, a lot of dysfunction.
" By 1960, the black marriage rate had declined but remained close to the white marriage rate. In other words, despite open racism and widespread poverty, strong black families used to be the norm."
That was a time when you could go to Greenwich Village or the North Beach of San Francisco if you wanted to live without concern for traditional Christian morality-and that was about it. Leave the borders of Munchkinland and you were likely to be knocked in the head by a teenage (white) goon.
And there was a time (before independence and beyond to some extent), when Jamaica had one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Ian Fleming and Noel Coward were very comfortable with having their primary residences there. Today, Jamaica has the highest homicide rate of any country in the world. Wikipedia ("Crime in Jamaica"): " When Jamaica gained independence in 1962, the murder rate was 3.9 per 100,000 inhabitants, one of the lowest in the world. In 2022, Jamaica had 1,508 murders, for a murder rate of 53.34 per 100,000 people, the highest murder rate in the world. Jamaica recorded 1,680 murders in 2009.
I think we all know the social and legal environments were radically different in 1950 and 1960 from what they are today. There was a lot more social discipline for everyone, That was why, famously, the hippies didn't like it so much. Generally, more social discipline for blacks than whites because of Jim Crow in the South and informal partial Jim Crow in most of the rest of the country and probably other factors I don't want to get into because I'm not writing an essay.
Slavery is a very disruptive and evil thing. It was a huge mistake bringing blacks to a continent controlled by whites. The colonies and subsequent United States have suffered from it since then. The fact is black and white culture is not compatible.
Before the 1965 Civil Rights Act, black families were much more cohesive.
Are there any conservatives that are ready to cut off welfare to single mothers? To the point where their children will go without food/shelter/medical care?
No, there is some desire to shame deadbeat dads but there is little juice left to squeeze there.
Single moms would rather be married to the state than men that would want them. They will vote for that. That’s the equilibrium. Unless the vote is taken away from single moms and conservatives grow a spine nothing will change.
How the cold winter theory affect hot weather european countries like Portugal, South Spain, Italy etc...?
This is an interesting article. I do think that welfare has a lot to do with the destruction of the black family and rise of single mother homes. But, there's another factor too, declining religiosity specifically Christianity that built the western world.
Anti-adultery/promiscuity, focus on the family and greater society, anti-infant abortion: these ideals and more came from Christianity. The lack of them have corroded American society. Whites and hispanics are galloping after similar rates of dysfunction that the black family has.
I'm not sure how to respond to this article. I haven't thought much about the causes of the various dysfunctions in the American black community, but I've never been sympathetic to slavery as the foundational root cause of the dysfunctions simply because slavery seems to be the "cause" whatever the issue, drowning out any voices arguing for "individual agency." This article actually makes me more sympathetic to the slavery reason, at least regarding the dysfunctions of the black family and family formation.
But once family formation fails from one generation to the next, it becomes the norm in a community. How you break this cycle is the question, one that is greatly exacerbated when BLM and other activist groups seek to destroy the nuclear family as an instrument of the patriarchy.
And what about white male pathologies like suicide, pedophilia and famicilide, since you care soo much about moral vices? How about eradicating the endemic pathologies about the white male community instead of trying to save others to feel better about yourselves and your pathetic condition. Asian and hispanic have been outcompeting whites in the west coast, you cant even save your demographic from replacement and you are trying to save others lol. How genuinely ironic
I had both of these authors in mind when I wrote this comment and as I read this post.
This is interesting. My GG grandfather was 1/2 black and come to Lower Canada in 1837 from a slave plantation in Barbados. I know a lot about the white side of our planter family, but very little about the slave side. I dont know what to say, except that this grandfather did marry in Canada and had a large family, from which I am descended.
I just learnt so much about why Caucasians restrict female sexuality and why my foreign students purvey the promiscuity of their male counterparts so vivaciously. Makes total sense.
So essentially black culture has always been black culture.