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Episode 29 : Job Stacking and Prosocial Piracy with Noah Revoy
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Episode 29 : Job Stacking and Prosocial Piracy with Noah Revoy

**UPDATE: Go read my job stacking guide if you want more details on how to pull this off yourself.

In this episode of Walt Right Perspectives I am joined once more by Noah Revoy, a professional mentor / coach whose last appearance on the pod was immensely popular with my audience of high openness bigbrains.

Noah and I wanted to do an episode specifically about job stacking / overemployment. In this call we discuss why this type of “prosocial piracy” is entirely justified (if not morally obligatory) in the modern world, the sort of mindset you need to be successful with it, and practical strategies for getting started.

Over the coming days I will also release a more detailed written guide, so stay tuned!

Topics include:

  • How the low trust international business environment changes the incentive structure and makes loyalty to your employer a sucker’s game

  • How the capitalist ethic of Henry Ford gave way to consumer capitalism

  • Job stacking resembles a modern form of piracy

  • Developing a personal surplus is what enables altruism

  • Working remotely liberates you in dozens of ways

  • Job stacking removes the ceiling on productivity for young guys

  • Being an effective manager and climbing the ladder requires much shiftier and more exploitative behavior than job stacking

  • Smart people finish their work much faster

  • Your manager only cares that you get work done and are available during the day

  • People stretch their workload to accommodate the time available to them

  • White people got started like this—originally by conquering Europe with chariots and millennia later the world with caravels

  • Those project manager / consultant girls on TikTok are mostly hired to fill the city with attractive women

  • Living in an anarchic environment like early modern Italy requires the adoption of Machiavellian tactics

  • How lots of high IQ but extremely disagreeable men from working class backgrounds often fall through the cracks and fail to climb socially

  • How college these days is more of an extended high school

  • The best credentials for young guys to pursue

  • How you can leverage AI to help with job stacking

  • Job stacking should be seen as starting your own consultancy

  • Can you use your girlfriends / wife as a secretary?

  • The hard ceiling on job stacking is meetings because of SCRUM / Agile

  • Everyone only expects that you hit the average of a diverse workplace

  • The benefits of being a Mediocre White Guy

  • Having only one job puts all of your eggs in one basket

  • Part of job stacking is always interviewing and evaluating job offers

  • Taking advantage of an autism / ADHD diagnosis to get ahead

  • Why are right wingers so afraid of winning?

  • More money makes you more you.

  • Leaders like Gordon should use job stacking to build their own neighborhood

  • The best way to keep the peace is to let everyone have their own space

  • At will employment means if you don’t get fired it’s alright

  • Is it better to job stack at smaller companies or large corporations where it’s easy to “get lost in the crowd”

  • Most people who get rich just scale up another good idea

  • Internally scaling up your processes between jobs is essential

  • It’s not a big deal if you don’t use business terminology correctly all the time

  • Job stacking gives exposure to procedures at competitors and lets you improve

  • Many people on the right don’t like to win

  • You don’t need to feel competitive with your boss if job stacking

  • You have to make the degenerate aspects of the modern world work for you

  • Thinking in the medium term is hardest

  • Intelligent people need to consciously make things more stressful for themselves

  • Be careful with conspicuous consumption and jealous brother-in-laws!

  • Status differentials between friends create resentment/bitchiness

  • Job stacking lets you have a housewife without living worse than DINKs

  • At various points in your life you should optimize for different things

  • The lowered desire for sexual novelty in high status men after turning 30

  • How the reconquest of Spain/Sicily/Portugal was pushed by amoral border raiders

  • How to be a pirate in the borderlands while protecting the Hobbits back home

  • You need to get power/money (and therefore prestige) before approaching normies

  • How to organically transition from job stacking from entrepreneurialism

  • Most successful consultancies steal clients from past employers

  • Rich people don’t care if they get sued

  • Noah’s childhood experience organizing a network to intimidate bullies

  • Break artificial law so you can use your extensive resources to enforce natural law

  • It’s unjust to your family not to optimize your revenue generation

  • This could give our circles tremendous resources to combat the left in information warfare, investigative journalism, and counter-intelligence

  • Most smart conservatives just follow the money, so we can increase our human capital by creating the right financial incentive structure

  • San Francisco mindset will bifurcate us into White Brahmins and White Dalits

  • Financially successful people never call other people grifters

  • We need leadership from the Officer Caste to inspire agency in normal people

  • Noah and Walt want to form a private Telegram group to discuss a scalable strategy for Prosocial Piracy—if you want to get in, DM me “get me rich”

Discussion about this episode

Bruh. I finally finished your LAST interview with Noah Revoy, in short commute chunks over two weeks, and now there's another one? At this rate I'll be caught up with the podcasts I currently want to listen to around the time you're celebrating Episode 1000.

Interesting that job stacking is the subject of the followup, because I noticed that work was the throughline of your previous discussion. The two of you talked a bit about sex and game, but much more about jobs and income. You know this already, I assume, but I'll say it explicitly: since pussy isn't a big deal once you're actually getting some, teaching Zoomer boys to be agentic and effective in their work and financial lives is the biggest long-term value add that you can give them as a mentor.

I've been thinking about this recently in the context of your piece about the five-to-ten year gap and how young men are wired to learn best from guys slightly older than them. (That piece works well as a standalone essay, glad it's unpaywalled.) It seemed self-evident to me as a teenager in the 90s that work was a coldly transactional arrangement where you gave your time and energy to a hostile entity in exchange for money. I watched my dad devote his life to Megacorp for thirty years at the expense of his relationship with his wife and kids, and I didn't want any part of that. But the adults in my life all told me I was being cynical.

They didn't have any good advice, just Boomer platitudes and credentialist path-dependency. Neither did the 90s neocon right -- they had their own non-actionable platitudes about bootstraps and entrepreneurship. But unfortunately for me, the Gen X left definitely DID have answers.

No generation in human history will ever be as coddled as the Boomers, but the core Gen Xers ten years older than me, who I took as role models, had it easy in their own way. Rents in the big cities were cheap before gentrification, so you could get a low-status but low-stress slacker job, cultivate your favorite subcultural aesthetic, and enjoy the cultural and sexual opportunities of city living without having to run the capitalist rat race. I got to have a little bit of fun in my early 20s, just as this world was vanishing, but by my mid-20s it was gone for good as the economy changed. The guys in that world who had the highest status, and pulled the most tail, were the guys who'd managed to exit the system entirely as working musicians and artists. (There was a time when you could do this without a trust fund.)

But the changing economy put an end to all that and left me scrambling to catch up financially. And a pirate beats a dropout; I wish I'd known at a younger age that you can be hostile to the system and still make money off it if you cultivate your own agency and take a mercenary/piratical attitude towards your employers. My own advice to the younger generation all boils down to "don't do what uncle Torposting Casual did, kids!"

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I can't even begin to describe how every single aspect of this conversation resonates with me.

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Thats fantastic. I hope you had some valuable takeaways from it.

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r/overemployed has a lot of tips as well

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The problem if you live in Europe like myself is that you just can't get away with job stacking. I know a guy who tried this at a previous organisation I worked for and they got rid of him pretty swiftly. Because of the 48 hour working regulation, a company has a 'duty of care' to make sure you're not overworking or they might get in trouble. If you do something like that you usually get found out and dismissed pretty quickly.

What other options would you propose for someone like myself (135 IQ, moderate agreeableness, high openness product owner) for whom job stacking is not a realistic option?

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Highly interested in learning this skill. I want to get rich!

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Nice work

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Make me rich!!!

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