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Can you explain in simple terms what it is that you are seeing that has got the alarm bells ringing?
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Well, the first thing I saw during a regular melanoma clinic that I had been doing for years was that I was starting to see people who were stable. We've been doing immunotherapy for over 20 years. And I was starting to see people who had been stable for 5, 10, even 20 years. relapse really unusually.
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They're very fit and healthy. And I've occasionally seen this. When somebody gets very depressed, they get knocked back, bereavement, divorce, bankruptcy for months. And we know this depression is associated with immune suppression. So I have seen that two or three times. And I looked for this in these patients, and there was absolutely no evidence.
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