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Gov. Josh Shapiro: We Can Do Big Things
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Gov. Josh Shapiro: We Can Do Big Things

With video replay.

The governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, sits down with Tim Miller in Philly to talk about the kind of language that wins over voters, the campus protests, finding the sweet spot on public safety and crime, and getting sh*t done.

show note and video replay:
This interview was recorded May 1, 2024.


Discussion about this episode

Can't wait to listen to this later

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I decided to listen to this again in light of Veepstakes and all I can say is, "gimme some Josh Shapiro, stat!"

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Josh Shapiro won against Doug Mastriano which is not saying much. Sort of like stroke victim Jon Fetterman winning against Dr Oz. Josh Shapiro might win a US Senate seat in PA but he would never win POTUS. Just like Pete Buttigiegthe would never win as POTUS candidate. Wishful thinking. How many times will the Democrats run candidates who will be rejected by mainstream Americans?

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Outstanding, Tim.

I get that not every podcast can be like this, but it would be great if they could.

Now I get the drumbeat around Shapiro running for POTUS.

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How the hell is Mr. Shapiro not the face of the Democratic Party.

Talk about "down-home" talk and intellect!!!

We listened to the reality of the Democratic party of the 21st cventury.

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You, Tim Miller, owe me a new keyboard. I spit out my iced tea when you asked the Governor to look straight into the camera and then asked him if he ever shot a dog.

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Great interview but be fair to California. Caltrans fixed I-10 very quickly after fire damage.

https://dot.ca.gov/fix-10

We deserve to be teased about the train 😁

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Good interview, Shapiro comes across as normal-sounding and competent. I know Shapiro won in a blowout in 2022, but how this man beat Deranged Doug Mastriano by only 15 points says a lot about where we are as a country and what a whole lot of voters want in their elected officials

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Great interview Tim! I’d vote for him tomorrow.

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Great interview, Tim. Love my Governor!

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Fantastic interview. I have followed Gov Shapiro for several years and find him to be smart as a whip. I remember his son walking into his interview during Covid and slowly backed out of the scream. That was priceless.

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Thx for the reminder of the quick I-95 fix :). Cutting through red tape improves the process!

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What a wonderful interview. PA is so lucky to have him.

It was such a relief to hear somebody call this out as antisemitism without feeling the need to differentiate it from Zionism, which many of the protesters clearly don’t understand.

I don’t think he believes that there was “overkill” in breaking up the protests. Like David French, he’s a lawyer and he knows what the First Amendment says.

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Tim, you are doing such a good job both with getting interesting folks to come on, then having good conversations. This was an especially good episode.

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My Governor is awesome

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Really a great interview with Josh Shapiro. He is a great representative of the Democrats and what they stand for. Tim you do really thoughtful and interesting interviews. I love listening to The Bulwark as it is always interesting and insightful.

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Tim I love you to death. This whole false equivalency about Democrats not condemning anti semitism is insane. Name me one Democrat who has not condemned anti semitism. This is in stark contrast to Donald Trump after Charlottesville, or Steve King, or all the other right wing crazies. Your leftist of the leftist congressperson have all issued statements condemning antisemitism. Do you want them to do a jig too?

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Ilhan described Jews as “anti-genocide” or “pro-genocide.”

A jig from her would be a start.

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She already jigged ur just captured

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Nice try

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Her actual quote was:

“I think it is really unfortunate that people don’t care about the fact that all Jewish kids should be kept safe,” she said. “We should not have to tolerate antisemitism or bigotry for all Jewish students, whether they’re pro-genocide or anti-genocide.”

Again condemning anti semitism

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I’m sorry, but referring to Jews as “pro-genocide” is about as antisemitic as it gets. And she’s as antisemitic as it gets, so that fits.

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Also read Smotrich or Ben-Gvir (sp) they are definitely pro genocide

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She believes that a genocide is being propagated against the Palestinians, she still condemned antisemitism

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Lol ok you clearly read nothing else in that quote

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Josh Shapiro is one of the many in a long line of a deep bench for the Democrats for the future.(along with Whitmer,Buttigieg,Polis,Kloubuchar, Colin Aldred) All they need is more time and national exposer. What Biden lacks in communication skills they excel.

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Superb podcast today. I've observed Governor Shapiro from afar here in Illinois and am more impressed each time I see and hear him. This is a person who will make positive impacts in PA and hopefully beyond in the future! Thanks, Tim!

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The disrespect to Giannis is insane. Lost my vote if he ever runs for president

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Luzerne maga man (tim in the interview), how exactly is Trump proposing he'll lower inflation and make everything cheap again? I mean so far you've given him a pass on explaining it, and instead all I hear about are Trump's proposals for massive tariffs on all import goods. Sounds like more price increases to me, what about you? I don't think he really has a plan, do you?

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Trump's all around tariffs are going to be a massive tax increase and therefore will raise prices on most everything. I look forward to when Biden raises this issue.

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This is of course completely correct. However trump you'll recall from the first go around will simply state this is false a d the "Chinese" will pay. There will be no follow ups and fact checkers will only be both after the fact but published in media where the readers already know how a tariffs works.

Biden if course should call him out but he'll have to do it in a pithyish but humorous perhaps manner that attracts attention. Thanks Reagan.

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Biden will bring it up.(as raising taxes which it is) And it will put Trumpster on the defensive. I think repeatedly attacking and putting him on the defensive is the best way to campaign against him.

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I really like Gov. Shapiro. He seems like a reasonable person with reasonable policies and he’s a great communicator. He needs to get on to the national stage.

Way off topic - is JVL not doing a Triad today? Did I miss it because I don’t see it? The Triad is what I read when I eat lunch so I still haven’t eaten lunch and I’m hungry.

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No Triad today. Agree on Shapiro.

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Philadelphia Freedom! yeah

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Love Elton John.

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Great show. Love that he said “sh-t” on the show.

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Tim,

Splitting time living in Philadelphia and the Bay Area, so I’m conflicted when you ask one of my Democratic Governors to dunk on the other.

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Man that guy interviews well. He needs to run for higher office down the road.

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He will,Book it. You heard it heard first.

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Josh Shapiro will be president one day.

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Shapiro’s wall-to-wall clichés made this unlistenable.

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I love this man. We need more people like him. Full stop. Ya I know he’s a polished speaker, he’s a “politician”, whatever. He’s saying realistic, normal person shit, in plain laymen’s terms. Bravo.

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I’m jealous; we have DeWine. 😬. Sure, he’s better than a lot of them, but he’s not great either.

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He sucks.

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Mine too.

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You betcha on the future dream ticket.

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I'm right there with you. I love my Governor Shapiro But I like the other two also

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